A re-imagined scanning system, intuitive navigation and new exploration modules will aid you as you search the heavens for your next conquest.

On my Birthday !

People are excited about them fixing crappy interfaces that have been that way for years?

Fixing broken legacy code is not an expansion....
Neither is another NERF....(Rebalancing)

Are you stalking me Dave? You seem overly concerned about my opinions?
CCP taken over another account for spam purposes? Are are you really that blind?

Until you get everyone and their brother out scanning if they make it even simpler to scan and there is nothing left for you to scan.

webpages are cheap; let's see the changelog.

Oh, hey look, more buggered, useless, exploration sites, some useless stuff for highsec industrialists to wet their panties over, and they will totally screw up the loot table yet again.
[sarcasm]
Yippee!
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Well I guess we can run them after the RADAR, GRAVAMETRIC, and LADAR sites...oh hey wait a minute, those are all terrible to do too.

The new scanning systems seems like more of the dumbing down of eve!

So many people, throwing such a fit over some broad statements. Might wanna wait till some more details come out before you have an aneurysm.

Ah, the idealism of the youth. Stick around kid, you'll get used to the bitter disappointment CCP hands out, one day

The current probing mechanics are complex if that is what you are referring too. They take quite a lot of skill and knowledge to effectively master. Obviously finding anomolies is really simple though. I just hope they don't dumb down the probing mechanics.

^^ What would a high sec miner know about the probing mechanics? :)

So you can manage to probe a static grav, you deserve a cookie. :)

Also your astrometrics is only at level II? I need say no more. :) Come back and talk when you have astro at V.

Dave, trust me, with out the Astro's at Level IV, you are not seeing everything there is to scan down.

You are indeed getting only the easy things.

I know because "I Was There".

At Astro III you should see everything. At Astros IV you should finally resolve everything 100% even if at .25 AU

(I said nothing of Level V, btw).

Yes, but you are talking about easy mechanics. I'm talking about finding the non-easy sites to find. That's hard till skilled and modded up. Plus being able even to open Sleepers. Gotta have Salvaging IV, and I believe V to open some of them. And training Codebreaking and Salvaging. If one is going this route in the game at all, they should have those and more at IV eventually.

Yay.

Lets move on......next.......

Will there be flying mounts?!!

/hides

And those of us who a pro, and i say pro at scanning all have upset stomachs now.

I believe some people weren't around for the old scanning system. The current version of probing is so immensely improved on it that I never thought to complain about the current system.

We need a ccp spai in here, to leek us intel..

All this ..... they do is is just to keep playerbase occupyed with worthlessly round discussions.

this devblog has no devs!

(and yes, this is my mining alt!)

Would be nice if probe launchers automatically launched the number of probes you selected and set them to pre-defined configurations.

But it would also remove the opportunity to see on d-scan which ship it is that is scanning while it is dropping probes, or even the chance to lock and kill the scanner if he's lazy enough to not go to a safespot before dropping probes.

I'm surprised and pleased that CCP has chosen exploration as the theme, but of course also wary about whether they will improve it or ruin it *g* I think the current scanning system is about the best-working feature in this game, so it's hard to see how a completely new system will be better. I hope they only improve the current system...

As has been explained to you many times in this thread, the probing mechanics are more complex than simply dragging cubes as you keep repeating.

And you can say that from your limited knowledge of scanning the easiest static grav sites with Astrometrics at level II? :)

Lol, its amusing watching fools dig them selves deeper into hole.

Although Dave in all his wisdom and with his Astrometrics skill at level II is telling everyone who trained up to IV and V that they have wasted their time and that there is really nothing to it.

Seriously, how about you two stop taking up needless space on this thread with what is a pointless argument and just go shoot each other in the game?

You just ruined the fun I was having.

The same goes for you, Rebeca's failings or lack there of have no bearing upon any proposed upcoming changes to the mechanics, how about you take this argument of yours someplace else?

because I want to actually read stuff about Odessy that's actually relevant, and filling the thread up with all this simply means there is that much more trash to sort through.

There is also the point of commentary that may be useful to the Devs, suggestions about the content by players, and them having to sort through all of this other crap simply means it's less likely they will recieve that.

On a more important note, did anyone else have a wtf moment when a medieval armoured knight walked past as CCP were giving the Oddysy presentation. :)

Based on past experience, your only birthday present is going to be a "Due to unforseen issues, we are pushing back deployment of the patch one week to June 11th."

ENJOY!

0/10

For real.

For pure true mind-numbing, try filling up an Orca 6 times with Ice with 2 toons.

And this is why mining needs to attentiveness. The problem with making it more attentive is that fewer people would do it AFK which while people would normally consider a good thing, downward pressure on mineral prices from increased supply is what is keeping T1 ship and module prices down. Also mining would have to be made fairly engaging if it were replaced with a different mechanic. Something that was mellow, but also rewarding.

That's why I was referring to making it something that you don't have to click on constantly -- i.e. automation -- but does require thinking.

click the button, watch fancy but useless graphics, get result 10 seconds later?

Hopefully all of them you whiny man child... But i guess just like everyone else, you have to wait and see.

So why isn't null worth mining?

That answer is insufficient. Even if null paid 2x what high sec mining paid, I would still not do it. Heck, even 4x.

Move all your stuff, get set up.. work your butt off, upgrade your system... Poof.. One AFK cloakie shows up and it was all for not. Don't even bother logging in for weeks while you hope they give up and go away.


You can't nerf high sec mining enough, or buff null mining enough, to make me put up with all the BS that comes along with null living.

EVE may be life to you. It is a casual hobby, a stress free release from the BS of real life, to me.

It seems it was not irrelevant to the person that asked ME the question that you jumped in and answered.

[irrelevant crap, as per usual]

I simply said that making null sec mining more profitable would not be sufficient to get me to become a null sec miner.

I don't see that thread as either a rant or rumor mongering

Since every nullsec mineral is worth more in terms of isk/m3, how is it that it's less profitable? And would it matter that it's more profitable than hi sec mining if it's still less profitable than all the other things you can do in null that are so much more profitable? Would it really need to be a 100M/hour kind of thing to viable?

Go mine some spoud, then talk about how much isk/m3 all those null rocks pay.

I don't know what's so juvenile about it. After giving it some thought, I reacted the same way and cancelled my accounts too so they wouldn't auto-renew in a couple weeks. I'm going to PLEX until Odyssey hits of course, but I'm not getting locked into any committments before I know the details of this resource "redistribution" either. As a high sec industrialist, I would be negatively impacted by virtually every scenario advocated by null players on these forums. If any of those ideas are implemented it could screw up my game. And as EVE is a game of linear progression, all progress made between now and then is potentially wasted time. So I can't agree that the reaction was childish. From my pov, it makes sense. Especially since I did the same thing.

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New scanning? Ahhh what? How about you give back what you took away. Leave the scan system as is, but give us back grav/mag/radar/ladar +anom probes. That way we can scan for what we want and not spend a hour every friggin evening scanning.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/03/31/eve-evolved-eves-odyssey-expansion-could-be-incredible/